This week, AP talks with Jack Brewer about Expanding Frontiers Research, a non-profit organization he founded along with Erica Lukes which is dedicated to responsible reporting and education around sourcing information on the topic of UFOs. Jack is a longtime UFO researcher and the author of such books as The Greys Have Been Framed: Exploitation in the UFO Community and Wayward Sons: NICAP and the IC. In this episode, he and AP discuss some recent work featured on the Expanding Frontiers blog regarding the FBI's interest in contactees and UFO groups such as The New York Saucer Information Bureau- which includes surprising insights about figures such as Ivan T. Sanderson. Along the way, attention is brought to standards of evidence and what can be concluded about various mystery figures within private UFO organizations, as well as the motivations of law enforcement at the time and some of the trickier aspects of filing FOIA requests.
This leads to a broader conversation about critical thinking and how to avoid jumping to conclusions, particularly with something as nebulous as UFO research. Also discussed are Jack's personal thoughts on the Phenomenon, the do's and don't's of talking to spooks, and some revelations uncovered about the Ramtha UFO cult.

Check out Expanding Frontiers here: https://www.expandingfrontiersresearch.org/
And check out Jack's books, available on Amazon!